The Jo Thoenes Afternoon Show, BBC Radio Oxford – June 03, 2009 (20 mins approx)

John discusses his journey to becoming a Sangoma and how it has changed his life.

Listen to the full interview here: John Lockley BBC Radio Oxford interview

With regard to this interview, John would like to make clear that as far as he and other Xhosa elders are aware, he is one of the first white men, in recent history, to become a fully initiated Xhosa Sangoma. However, there are reports of other white people becoming Sangomas in various indigenous tribes within South Africa.